Always with the “liberals”.
Yeah, exactly which liberals are we talking about? Maga? This shit is beyond moronic.
It’s a Tankie thing. They call everyone a liberal.
“liberal” here, smash that storefront for me I have to go to work thanks 👍
Hate to break it to you but the same is true in France. Media coverage here has focused almost exclusively on small shops being looted. The human brain has a much easier time focusing on individual tragedies rather than systemic issues, and the government and its cronies (and the local versions of fox news) are taking full advantage of that bias.
Keep in mind, the property damage after the murder of George Floyd was started by a white supremacist, too. “Umbrella man” smashed windows on an auto zone and spray painted it “free shit zone,” it would later be set on fire. Out of 20 people charged in Minnesota for rioting, only 4 were actually local to the state.
During the BLM demonstrations right wing provocatours deliberately caused damage to discredit the demonstrations. Two were caught and prosecuted in Cleveland where i live. Don’t be a tool
Yep. Pretty much all of the negative issues from the BLM protests were off duty cops or non-local white supremacists trying to provoke violence.
Remember the conveniently placed pallets of bricks?
Here we had The Umbrella man https://abcnews.com/amp/US/man-helped-ignite-george-floyd-riots-identified-white/story?id=72051536 And another guy who set fire to a parking lot attendants booth
The 2020 BLM protests were hardly some small, isolated incident involving a little property damage. The unrest caused more than $2 billion in insured property losses across the United States, making it the costliest civil-disorder event in U.S. insurance history at the time. The unrest spread across more than 20 states and affected communities nationwide. Whatever your political position, pretending the damage was trivial or that this was some minor, localized event is simply ignoring the facts. That doesn’t mean every protester was violent or that every demonstration was destructive, but the scale and financial cost of the unrest were substantial.
Despite the scale of the 2020 BLM protests, the long-term results were mixed at best. They generated enormous public attention and prompted some policy changes, but they did not fundamentally transform the American political system or eliminate the racial inequalities that motivated the movement. In many respects, the country remains deeply divided, and racial hostility has become increasingly visible in our political discourse. Under the current administration, rhetoric surrounding race and immigration has only intensified those divisions. For all the protests, all the disruption, and all the money lost to property damage, the question remains: how much has actually changed for the better?
This is exactly why memes like this are counterproductive. Rather than encourage an honest discussion about what happened, what it cost, and what the consequences were, they reduce complicated events to simplistic narratives designed to provoke anger and deepen divisions. Presenting misleading information to reinforce an existing political bias is propaganda, regardless of which side does it. It is the same kind of divisive political messaging that the current administration routinely uses to mobilize its supporters and discredit its opponents. When we substitute outrage and misinformation for facts, we make meaningful discussion impossible. That is a significant part of how we arrived at our current political climate, and continuing to circulate this material without questioning its accuracy only makes the problem worse.
I wish people would realize that the ability to protest is directly tied to social safety net.
You get beaten by a cop, you will get free healthcare that is not directly tied to your job. In the US, if you do have healthcare, it is tied to your job and your job can fire you for protesting if they want (unlike France we have no protection for being fired for political opinion).
Not just that, but US police are extraordinarily different from police in most of the world. They trace their roots back to organizations first formed to hunt escaped slaves. They are heavily militarized, almost never face any consequences for abusing their power, and are usually encouraged to use violence against left-wing protestors.
At points during the BLM protests, Trump called in the National Guard, who proceeded shoot and kill both protestors and bystanders.
There is also the gun factor. Self defense is not generally accepted as a reason to own a gun in France, so there is no self defense carry. That automatically makes the cops less likely to react suddenly and violently.
Isn’t that why some of you guys worship the 2nd amendment? in case you have to deal with a tyrannical government?
So it is true. Americans can’t protest like the French. You just interpreted it wrongly
Nationality isn’t the issue, location is. You can’t protest in America like you can in France.
sorry but that’s an amazing photo. i hope it’s a photo, i ain’t look too close
They should make him eat there
My problem with rioting is it often seems to be the working class shitting on their own doorstep… surely the most effective rioting would be to target parliament buildings, political party offices, banks and the properties of the very wealthy? Just my twopenn’orth.
This is why riots without organization are just as ignorable as nonviolent protests without organization. Neither threaten the power of the state because there is no power in individual acts.
“Safe” protests won’t accomplish a damn thing.
I love the No Kings protests in Portland… congratulations, you’re protesting for an audience who already 99% agrees with you.
But that’s protests in Portland in general, BLM, Occupy Wall Street, etc. etc.
Want to make a real difference? Take that shit to D.C. and shut the city down for a month. That might move the needle.
Preaching to the pre-converted? Pointless.
Burn one billionaire or politician and you’ll see some movement.
We don’t have a central figure or identity that can pull that kind of movement together. Single-day marches? Sure. Moving hundreds of thousands of people two thousand miles and then feeding them for a month? That’s military logistics.
Yup, which is why nobody has done it since 1/6. 😉
i mean they only charged 1.5k-ish people. i was watching from california, there were obviously more but nowhere near 100k. i think official counts were somewhere closer to 5k.
Like I think Protests like No Kings and 50501 were great protests to get over the first hump of organization. Still is I suppose for those late to the party. However when they didn’t evolve to armed protestors, then evolve further when people like Pretti made the news dying in broad daylight, documented from multiple angles. It ultimately became a resting place that misdirected our energy into pointless busy work.
It was a great first couple of steps, but everybody started getting comfortable staying there even as the government, and namely The Republicans and ICE kept escalating. Always fearing their escalation, that inevitably kept happening even without The Insurrection Act.
Our due process was the social contract that stopped us from just taking power from them, letting them represent our country, earn a salary, without the need for citizen violence to enforce order. They broke that contract. And they keep breaking it everyday. They are no longer protected by the contract. They do not deserve to benefit from the same contract they wipe their ass with.
To put it bluntly, people should have already organized and prepped already. What happens as midterms head towards election day, and the aftermath is likely to be violent either way. I really do not see Republicans giving up power willingly. Though I hope to be wrong, and everything just gets better without the need for bloody violence. I just don’t see it happening currently. Even if The Dems win, there will be violence.
All these people saying that Americans can’t protest forget that we literally host hometown hero Luigi. Arguably the best way to get the message across. Needs more consistency, but It’s certainly effective.
It is usually local people harmed by property damage when the people who are the problem point fingers from afar at strawmen. It seems no matter what you do, tribalism will overcome any change.
straw man fallacy?
I am not aware of a single “liberal” who got upset about that at all.
The problem might be that you either don’t know what a liberal is, or that you don’t know how people use the term in everyday life.
You saw a mildly critically post from a soccer mom. We get it, you think you’re morally righteous and anyone with a slightly different opinion is an evil LiBeRaL
The most effective form of protest workers have against owners requires no violence at all: It’s strikes, ideally a general strike. The economic damages from even one week of half of the country’s workers refusing to work would force the wealthiest permille to make concessions.
The principal problem people in the USA have is that your hyperindividualism prevents you from developing a class consciousness with your fellow workers. Most of you are not joining unions to make them strong for collective bargaining, not standing in local elections against establishment candidates, not joining/creating local mutual self-help groups, and so on.
Yeah, all this talk of violent protests right before an important election will DEFINITELY not help the fascists declare martial law and stay in power. /s
