• cannedtuna@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    They don’t actually care about curing cancer, they just use it to justify their existence. If they did cure cancer they’d hide it or figure out how to monetize the fuck out of it.

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      28 days ago

      Well, here’s the thing, you can’t cure cancer. Cancer is just a type of a many different things, all requiring very different avenues of potential “cure”.

      To cure cancer, like it’s a singular, is like the DNA equivalent of “finding the cure for mental illness”.

      So whenever you hear it on the forefront of something, you know it’s bullshit narrative.

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      27 days ago

      Reminds me of a two sentence horror I read a few years back:

      “I wish there was a cure for cancer!”

      “Why waste your wish on something that already exists?”

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      28 days ago

      I’ve had multiple marketing and finance professors say in class that curing cancers will destroy a multi-trillion dollar industry, the people benefiting don’t want that.

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      28 days ago

      did you know those lovely chaps at google have already effectively solved the protein folding problem that is already leading to revolutions in medicine

      oh you didn’t know that. what does that make you

      you like revolutions don’t you? oh only bloody ones. good luck with that

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        27 days ago

        Wow.

        Does your whole account just exist to make shit comments (like setting up a strawman arguments you can knockdown like above) and getting downvoted?

        What a sad existence.

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    28 days ago

    “AI” cannot and shall not cure cancer. There isn’t even such a thing as “cancer”. That’s just a name we give to a whole family of illnesses that share similar traits. They all have very different causes, different profiles, different risks and different ways of treating them.

    For a lot of them, they are hard to treat once they get beyond a certain point. That’s why a lot of modern research is focused on early diagnosis and prevention. Especially with mRNA vaccines proving to be highly effective at taking away certain risk factors that cause some types of cancer. There’s also no such thing as curing cancer. Cancer can be treated, it can be removed, but it can never be cured. It isn’t like other diseases where it can be fully cured. Even if the cancer itself has been fully removed, the risk factors that lead to the cancer still exist. So we say people are in remission and have a certain likelihood of getting the same cancer again in the future. Again, this is why there is so much focus on preventing the disease in the first place. And the truth is, some risk factors are very hard to take away. So most likely some forms of cancer will always be present. This is especially true for the majority of the world who don’t have a lot of money. People living in places with bad pollution and poor air quality are at risk and usually can’t really do anything about that. There is no curing that, that’s a fact of life.

    So like most of the things these AI psychopaths are talking about applies to their very small group of insanely rich people, who rule the world in their future vision, because the robots rule the world and they rule over the robots. They want the AI to fix cancer for them and fix aging, so they can hoard their power and money forever. It’s also funny how they say the AI will fix global warming and cure cancer. Well we could start by stopping to build and power all these datacenters. Stop them from running their gas burning generators, that pollute the air. It would be funny if it weren’t so very sad.

    This isn’t to say machine learning algorithms can’t contribute to cancer research, they for sure can. But LLMs not so much and just calling the whole thing AI and treating it like it’s some kind of god being that can magically fix all of our problems is insane. The fucking thing is trained on reddit and 4chan for fucks sake, how is anything good ever going to come from that?

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      I can’t speak for cancer specifically but a lot of research out there isn’t in easily parseable formats for people to sort through using traditional methods, and LLMs have been pretty helpful for adding to evidence of specific effects to be able to pare down the list of millions of compounds out there to a number that’s worth testing in the research I’ve been a part of. I’m about as skeptical as anyone can be of the use of LLMs in the medical field and try to avoid using them whenever possible but one of the only things they’re good for is parsing more text than any human is capable of in short amounts of time which is unfortunately useful for first passes in a lot of the work that goes into therapeutics development

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    27 days ago

    “The race must be won at all costs. When I am god-emperor of the universe, then we can talk about curing cancer or whatever”

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      AI will cure cancer before human scientists.

      Not because it’s smart or will figure it out on its own. It’s just a lot better at aggregating completely disparate pieces of information. A scientist researching in one field doesn’t hold the the whole body of knowledge of other fields. So it takes time to piece the bits together.

      This is why discoveries are often made near simultaneously in different parts of the globe by different people. Just enough information gathered in just the right locations seen by people with the appropriate amount of knowledge.

      With AI, that last bit gets faster and it will get the credit.

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        26 days ago

        At this rate AI will cure it by having everyone die off of corporate greed and there being nobody left to have cancer.

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        I think this is highly optimistic. I think AI helps researchers overcome skill gaps, analyze data and keep up to date with current research. But the current work needed to be done to solve the knowledge gap in protein and gene function is just to big. I think overall the problem is to complex, to individual to “cure cancer” as the phrase suggests. Its a helpful and maybe even powerful tool, but not the game changer altman and musk make it seem to be.

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    27 days ago

    “Ending humabity” with “random shinny text generator”… nope… this is just hype for investors

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    I’m not a huge conspiracy guy, but I’m sorry, there is absolutely zero fucking chance there’s no cure for cancer and a dozen other things. They developed vaccinations, antibiotics, ect before the first half of the 19th century. They did this on a bunson burners and petry dishes. These pieces of shit take in BILLIONS in donations a year and have access do gene resequencers, supercomputers, and modeling programs BUT still can’t make a dent over the last 60 years. Absolute bullshit.