The comments have went so far off the rules (and rails). Locking, because mods volunteer, and we’ve been flooded with reports for this post thread alone.
The tankies seem incapable of reckoning with the fact that an informed citizen can vote for the lesser of two evils (usually fairly easily) and also take other action like boycotts protests and community organizing etc. I also don’t believe most of the keyboard communists actually do jack shit to fight back, aside from impotent online rage.
It’s even worse than that. Most of them are incapable of understanding any kind of nuance. To them every issue is black or white. And everyone who doesn’t agree with every single point on their extremist agenda is an identical enemy.
And Lemmy (or at least certain instances on Lemmy) is infested with them. Which means they go around in clusters, swarming anyone on the other instances who doesn’t conform with their impractical ideology and blinkered views.
Edit: Ooh, looks like they found my comment! Just wanted to add a special note to them: grow the fuck up!
grow the fuck up!
For a non zero chunk of them, this is about getting paid in Kremlin bucks.
I’ve said it in another comment but I’m pretty sure most lemmings genuinely believe that the cow is a perfect sphere. Lemmy US political discourse is fuckin garbage.
These people are really like swarms of mosquitoes and Lemmy is somehow infested with them.
Not sure where these people exist IRL or at all. So weird …
Primaries are for getting the candidates you want. General elections are for picking the candidate who is closest to your values. If you really want change, get involved for your primary candidate. Just bitching on here and sitting out on civic action is selfish catharsis.
Obligatory Simpsons meme
I’ll take “we can’t govern”, please.
BUt ThAt MeAnS yOu LoVe GeNoCiDe tHo
One, democrats have already demonstrated their lack of appetite to protect trans rights.
Two, it’s a hostage situation that allows the “left” party to do nothing by just not being the actual villain. It won’t win them elections and won’t actually help anyone. You can’t pretend you’re the good guy if you just stand there while the bad guy shoots the people who you claim you want to help.
Three, vote for the love of gods. I don’t care if they’re the lesser evil, we can still make them change and that’s better than active evil. Their strategy of hostage taking might be a losing one, but we can force them to become the actual good guys
lmao I got called “Blue MAGA” for encouraging strategic voting just yesterday. I was a card carrying member of DSA before it was cool.
You can tell an election is coming up because all the bots and shills crawl out of the woodwork to start arguments between centrist Democrats and progressive leftists. I’m often disappointed by Status Quo Democrats but I’ll take a status quo that doesn’t work well enough for everyone over a lurch towards fascism that intends to claw back every right we’ve secured since the 1860’s and eagerly steal the territory and resources of middle powers… and do it all fucking incompetently.
Did you think everything was fine before Trump?
Then you’re Blue MAGA.
“The house is on fire now, but before that happened you needed to brush your teeth, so your life wasn’t ‘fine’ before”
I’m genuinely surprised there are no comments blaming the Dems for that marquee.
Primaries are for getting the candidates you want. General elections are for picking the candidate who is closest to your values. If you really want change candidates, get involved in your candidates primary push. Just bitching on here and sitting out on civic action is selfish catharsis.
Lots of theee people who are loudly bithlching about “Blue MAGA” are trying to keep us from voting blue in order to support the GOP. The centrist swing voters are overwhelmingly voting Democratic this cycle, so they’re trying to convince leftists to either stay home or waste their vote on a third party.
or waste their vote on a third party.
I feel like this isn’t understood well enough: Strategic voting in plurality systems means making concessions. Proudly refusing to concede any point at all is worthless it it ends up conceding them all instead.
The system is fucked and needs replacing, but while the MAGAts may abolish it, I have little faith they’ll install something better in its place. That alone should be worth the damage control.
Reminder: While establishment dems are cringe, tankies first and foremost want to see the US and its citizens die, for shits and giggles.
Muricans, don’t fuck this up. We’re so tired of all the political news from your country dominating every single “global” space. Sincerely, the rest of the world.
But guuuuuys muh rachet effect! Every DEMONcrat is exactly the same ok? The system is broken so we shouldn’t try to do anything about it, it’s way more cool and revolutionary to talk about an eventually revolution generations down the line, the trans and browns can wait! If you vote you’re CAPITALISTIC SWINE WHO LOVES GENOCIDE. The 33% who didn’t vote last election didn’t just let Trump win they were actually cool revolutionaries ok?
It’s actually spelled GeNoCiDe, otherwise, no notes.
Seems you are the one posting divisive stuff a month before the election, but go off
“For dinner you can pick between overcooked turkey, or a bowl aged horse urine, children’s fingers, and broken glass. You have to eat one of them.”
“Neither option is vegan and the turkey is dry, so it doesn’t matter which one I eat .”
Huh? If you’re vegan then both of those options are equally disgusting to you and you’d probably choose to skip this meal
One of those is clearly worse than the other. Yeah - neither is a vegan option, but they’re the only choices. That means that whether or not they’re vegan doesn’t matter.
The last part of the prompt is that you have to eat one of them. Because that’s what a general election is. You’ll end up having one of those meals going down your throat no matter what. Refusing to choose is essentially choosing cannibalism and eating broken glass.
Deciding not to vote because one issue you care about isn’t on the ballot is choosing to let the world burn. The world has a lot of problems, and ignoring them all in order to continue not fixing one is idiotic.
“Remember you stupid tr#nnies, your job is to support the party, no matter how much the candidate we nominate hates you. Your job is to sit down, shut up, and get in line. We need your votes, not your voices. The correct time to oppose the TERFS is not during the first year’s primary (we let candidates hide their transphobia during the first primary.) It’s certainly not during the first general election. It’s during the primary, you stupid tr#nny!”
"Also, please be aware that it is irresponsible to primary a TERF democrat running for reelection in a purple district. We can’t give up an incumbent seat after all. You’ll just have to wait and vote SO HARDS until that district votes so overwhelmingly blue that it becomes a safe seat. Then it will be acceptable to primary the TERF we put forward. Also, please be aware that before running in that primary, your new candidate will first have to get passed the real primary, the money primary to decide who gets to be on the primary ballot. Ok, now that your role is clear, blue no matter who. Remember tr#nnies, you’re fabulous and we love you. And remember, if we lose, it’s all your fault and you deserve whatever laws are passed against you! Slay gurl! Hope this helps! Don’t forget to sign up to canvas for the terf as this year’s pride! 🥰 🥰 🥰 "
Guys this is the most important election of our lifetimes, you have to keep doing what we’ve always been doing, otherwise things will keep going the way they’ve always been going!
Every election is the most important the same way each breath you take is the most important. If you stop, you’re dead.
Hey, so about your better idea, is it fire bombing walmarts? And are you actually going to do that?
Because I remember a
tweetdocumentary about how that’s going…That’s the first thing that comes to YOUR head?
The insane part here is the red party having ANY loyalty, support, or chance of winning. That is the psycho dystopian impossible part, and the rest is damage control choosing among lesser evils.
Discworld even mocks this. The recurring patriarch of Ankh Morpork is Havelock Vetinari. He’s kind of evil. But he’s nowhere NEAR as evil as some people who’d like to take his place, and actually wants some stability for the city. So he stays.
