The only real compromise is to free the Russians from their oppressive regime and bring everyone supporting it to justice.
I’m not taking the tankie position but how does Ukraine/Europe/NATO etc. expect to end this war? Do they really think Ukraine will retake the Donbas and Crimea? To me the compromise seems pragmatic and has nothing to do with supporting Russia.
EDIT: Ok just to be clear. There are three positions.
- Fight Russia and push them out of the Donbas. This would involve committing Western troops and declaring war on a nuclear power.
- Negotiate and let Putin take some territory. Given the war crimes and fascism shown by Russia, this would be catastrophic for the people who live there, but the daily slaughter would stop.
- Give enough aid to Ukraine that the fighting continues indefinitely but neither side wins. This is the current situation. Between 1 and 2 million casualties so far.
I’m sorry that none of these are great options but dismissing #2 comes off as incredibly callous and naive.
Your grandparent if it was genetic:
“I wouldn’t take the German position, but how does England/France/Poland expect to end this war? Do they really think France will retake the Elsass and Lotharingia? To me, compromise seems pragmatic and has nothing to do with supporting Germany”
They win the same way any free people has ever resisted domination by tyrants. By fighting.
I find the comparisons between Putin’s Russia and Hitler’s Germany to be profoundly idiotic. If I need to lay out why then there’s no point even trying to argue because there’s a basic lack of understanding that needs to be overcome.
Haven’t Ukrainian socialists been burned alive in Odessa’s union building? So leftists could care less for either side.
While at least one of the fires seems to have been started by those outside the building, most seem to have been caused accidentally from inside.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odesa_clashes
TL;DR: Your propaganda is bad and you should feel bad.
There were some far-right Russian nationalists that colluded with police and shot pro-Ukraine marchers in 2014, before barricading themselves in the Union House building, and started shooting and throwing Molotovs at protestors, and lit themselves on fire. Are you thinking of those proto-Ztards?
