I (struggle to) use arch (in disposable VMs, not my actual machine) btw
Well, what a fest of dumb elitism and delusional farce in the comments. I need more popcorn and that you deeply for posting this
I need more popcorn and that you deeply for posting this
buy me a drink first
It will take some time, as I am preparing to move from one place to another with a few animals. But provided with a way to do it, will do
You don’t have to be 1337 to install arch, but you do need to be pretty 1337 to keep it running. I use arch btw, but I also use Mint because I don’t always have time for Arch’s shit.
“Hey, I tried the recommended GUI package manager and everything got messed up. Is anyone looking into this?”
“lol just usepacman -Syuin terminal”
“…k, guess I will, but I’m not about to recommend this to anyone else”
I struggle to see the hype of Arch.
But do you even
Not anymore.
my jokey response was already said by Allero, so I’ll tell you what I think draws people to it.
- Early packages. As soon as the packages are shipped, arch tries to get them in the repo, stability and interoperability be damned
- Related to the above, AUR. You can’t be bothered to build something? Get it from the AUR from someone who an be bothered to build it, but can’t be bothered to be the maintainer of that package. This then leads to the issue recently with malware.
- Minimalism. Arch only gives you what you need and you need to set up everything else.
- No automated help, thus, total control and responsibility over your system. Installed a flatpak? Set up the executable in the application launcher yourself. (NB : your mileage may vary, I’m comparing LXQT arch with LXQT debian)
I’m using it in VMs only, and because setting it up is faster for me than setting up debian, which is my daily driver. Like I said many times in this thread, I slop it on using archinstall since it just needs the initial config, and I just walk away. The deb installer uses a wizard that “does stuff” while I go through it, so I have to stop and start. I’m only doing defaults anyway , so I don’t have to change much in the installer.
Yeah, my quip is meant in the same vein. Every person is entitled to their own choice in the road to Hell they want to take.
In a more serious personal opinion, you can get nearly the same undercooked packages from SUSE Tumbleweed, with just with a bit more seasoning and testing. And if freshness matters with even better seasoning and testing Fedora can fill that role. And both take less effort and have less risk.
I stopped giggling and laughing about the flaming wreckage of my installs a decade ago because I’m just too old and lazy to fix things anymore.
I think I tried OpenSuse, but I’m not sure how I felt.
Does it have the easy archinstaller?
EDIT: They really fucked up the naming convention with Tumbleweed, which makes me think of a deserted place, when it’s actually the more up to date one
Yeah, I’ve tried Tumbleweed several times and liked it, but the package management and a couple of other things about it just didn’t vibe with me. I do like the name of Tumbleweed. Tumbleweeds never stay still as long as the wind blows. The wanderlust is real.
They should have just called it wanderlust, and it’s a German reference.
Although that could refer to distro hopping… 🤔
Which version of windows is arch?
it’s the one you use to access wikifeet
Radius Windows
I definitely agree here. But if you want to better learn how the system works, I suggest getting a cheap used laptop and just hammer at installing arch using the install guide, not the installer tool. The tool is nice and all, but you still need to know what is going on under the hood and to understand most of it.
