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      I don’t disagree with your decision to do this, but this isn’t really offering you any additional protection if you’re not using their products.

      It’s basically just a failsafe for web trackers that don’t get blocked. It isn’t preventing Meta from accessing your personal data if you’re not actively feeding it to them like Muse users are.

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        Their products are on most websites. Facebook has a profile on you whether or not you use their products directly, even if it’s just tied to a digital fingerprint.

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        It’s making sure no one using my network can use their products. Do you not have kids or do your kids not have friends?

        Your entire post could have remained a thought in your head and would have been just as useful.

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    All these things I take as a admission of guilt. They know they are going to break the law but its okay we told you about it before hand.

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    Meta asking users to hand over bank accounts, email archives and passwords while its own engineers reportedly call a massive breach »inevitable« is quite the sales pitch. At this point, Muse isn’t a personal assistant: it’s a beautifully branded single point of failure with Zuckerberg’s logo on it.

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    I’ve struggled to understand the value of this product. I know everyone has to do stuff they don’t exactly enjoy doing but how is putting this thing in charge supposed to make life that much easier? One small excerpt that indicates possible uses:

    To allow it to perform tasks that require a computer, like booking flights or shopping for groceries

    I’m not risking a problem with a flight of all things due to laziness leading me to put a bot in charge. Ridiculous. Grocery shopping? How much time is putting that thing in charge going to save me? If i ordered grocery store delivery all it’s going to do is take my shopping list and hopefully relay that info to the grocery stores site and schedule delivery and pay for it with my bank account. How much time is it saving me by automating it? A min or 2? I’m ok with ordering my groceries myself, most of the info will already be sitting there on my shopping list… going the “last mile” of ordering the stuff (as the bot could do) would be helpful i guess, but not revolutionary and ultimately something else i would simply rather handle myself. Why risk a problem just to potentially save a min or 2? And for what cost, at that?

    The people that need a personal assistant can pony up the $ to pay one. I don’t see this being an effective stand-in for one, but maybe I’m wrong. To me, this is perhaps the most egregious example of a “solution in search of a problem” because I’m still not having that moment of clarity where it’s like “Ooooooh, that’s why there’s so much hype surrounding this tech”

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      Yeah, booking a flight is only difficult because I make it difficult by deciding about how I feel about cost versus layovers versus time of departure/arrival.

      For grocery shopping, I’m very specific in what I want, and it’s easiest just to pick them specifically. For a lot, I’d rather just go in person to the store to look over things. In fact, whenever I spend money I’m pretty specific in what I want and I don’t want something to “improve” things by letting me be more vague.

      As a point of comparison, fast food ordering. Apps and Kiosks were actually a step up for me, because it was easier and quicker for me to see what the options are and select precisely what I want. AI order taking would be a huge step backwards from there. Even when ordering from waitstaff at a restauraunt, I always like to have my finger clearly pointing to the menu for what I want to order.

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      Many people are… not very discerning. They may not take time to price shop flights or really think through booking, and just pick the first option in front of them. They might get tired of online shopping, or just impulse order.

      I’m not saying it’s a good idea, but I think the people most likely to use this are also the ones to not notice stuff it messes up.

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    People working at Meta will end up leaking those info. Muse is just the tool.

    Saying AI is gonna do this bad thing etc is just offloading liability

    This kind of language is frustrating and should be changed because it is people who make these things and they should be held responsible.

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      People working at Meta will end up leaking those info. Muse is just the tool.

      B–B–Bingo.

      I hate how these stories set us up to blame the product and not the shitty vibe coders.

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      I agree with this in spirit, but we use this language for inanimate objects that lack agency all the time. If I built a car and let it roll down a hill with no one in it and it hit a person, we would say “the car ran a person over”. This does not imply agency on the car’s part, and it does not imply that I am not responsible.

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        it does not imply that I am not responsible.

        Be that as it may, it’s very important to keep the shitty developers in these conversations. Most people don’t make that logical leap automatically.

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      I mean unless you only have cash and only spend cash, don’t have a bank account, don’t have a loan, don’t connect to anything, etc., you’re going to be a part of this regardless.

      Just because you don’t use AI, your institutions you use certainly are and they’re all sharing the same needle.

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      I don’t think any “LLM enthusiast,” in their right mind, would feel okay about:

      Meta asks users to let Muse control everything from their bank accounts to their emails.

      If you use these things at a lower level, that is horrifying. Especially with how rushed the implementation seems to be, even assuming the VMs don’t leak.

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    I’ve made it a point to give them very little of my data over the years. I recently applied for a job there because I have a friend that works there. Now they know fucking everything about me. I would not put it past them to be keeping data collected from applicant résumés somewhere as well.

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    Imagine if the guys at the manhattan project were like “there is just NO WAY we’re gonna keep one of these from going off accidentally at some point, it’s INEVITABLE! In fact, ALL of them might go off at once and DESTROY THE WORLD!”

    They probably still would have invented it anyways, but just imagine!